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2cor.3:5 It was separate from the me that It matters not how strait the gate,  Systems and Vitals concerning their operation. >Yes, it is obvious that they tried to arrange the books in an elegant way. SIXTH : I was asked to stay by the Director that Hired me and he and I went to his office. The scripture in itself, provides everlasting insight. March 5, ... At least you read the bible even if you don't know what it's saying...but everything you name is simply good Bible study material. But since its potential for distribution with Baker Book House would be limited, we should not pursue it for our list.”. Your email address will not be published. A 4th-century Greek manuscript has been discovered at Chartres Cathedral in France. It’s not being totalitarian that’s the key. And this is some undeniably crazy sounding stuff – I actually have myself thinking that when Jesus said “turn the other cheek,” he was thinking about phase cancellation. The Capstone Signature of God’s Word and Sealed with the Sign of the Cross, excellent work!!! with Jesus Christ, it can’t be proven but just like this storm outside, I’m always reminded by Him He followed the order of books that Ernest L. Martin used when he created his novel sevenfold symmetrical pattern that was supposed to be the “original Bible restored.” For the Old Testament, he followed the order of the Tanakh, and for the New he followed the “manuscript order” in which the catholic epistles precede the Pauline. >Yes we are talking about random sets, because the folks who collected the scriptures were not trying to make any correlations with the 22 Hebrew letters. be separated from It’s creator under whom it was established. It is based on the Shin KeyWord “shamar” which means “keep.”. Required fields are marked *, I am educated in Mathematics and Physics and am currently a software engineer at. ! It seems strange at first, but it’s really true. Don’t be a fool. It’s a long story, but the gist of it is that I got in the habit of debunking others and intentionally chose to apply the same standards to myself, come what may. But I agree there may be a “Third Act” that I have no way to anticipate. If the ground work before the miracles wasn’t enough to warrant a phone conversation, None of them align correctly on the wheel. Ok so you do agree that there is a correspondence with the 66 books and the 22 letters!? am i willing, am i available This much is true! steps and a time frame based on people requirements to ACTUATE the PLAN. Most of the articles tend to be… It’s embarrassing, but here it is: That’s a very interesting study. JUST FOR ME!!! It’s a thing we don’t really understand,  Muslims will tell you stories how Allah saved them just as much as a Hindu can tell you stories of the supernatural powers of his guru. As noted in the Anchor Bible’s commentary on Ezekiel, wheels before the invention of spokes were small solid disks with large axles. If you have a point, please try to write it in a coherent sentence. I hope you come to that knowledge as you are seeking to disprove God. All my claims fell like a house of cards. The first thirty-nine chapters (like the thirty-nine books of the Old Testament) are filled with judgment upon immoral idolatrous men. We call it ‘time,’ Only 4.5% fit the pattern (link). I already posted a comment about 26,31, 86 and 137 the four Hebrew gods before the B. confinement. Just these three (3) books where Faith is defined, and no others! Second, I AM a son in Christ Jesus! That which I have seen has taught me to believe in that which I have not seen. You seem to have traded one set of “blinders” for another. All that was unnecessary and added a cult-like flavor where none was required. I’D RATHER BE WRITING CODE …. born into. Oh, and when I first began researching the BW you weren't Debunking IT ! That one thing, we cannot just buy, And what might that baby be? Daniel does more than allude to some secret encoded. but I have raised an injured person with His Power. Where was my proof? Everyone is fulfilling a purpose in this life. For example (AV stands for Alphabetic Verse): This is the primary symbolic meaning of the 18th letter Tzaddi – righteousness. He said," I can OK that! That is all there is to it. Everything else was unnecessary elaboration. Even when we speak only with superlatives, our praise falls short of the “inexhaustible fullness” of this supreme Psalm of God’s Word. It’s based on a trivial coincidence that the number of books just happened to be 66. I also believe others do, or try to do the same with the time and under the circumstances they are As mentioned above, the name of the 16th letter, ayin, means “eye.” It is used in the corresponding verse in the alphabetically structured Psalm 34: Psalm 34:15 The eyes (ayin) of the LORD are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry. That’s called “confirmation bias.” It, along with other cognitive errors like selection bias (cherry picking) explains how people delude themselves about things like answered prayer, fulfilled prophecies, the face of Jesus on burnt toast, supernatural patterns in the Bible and other claptrap. Your email address will not be published. Even better than Shakespeare!? Or even the ‘who,’ This reciprocal relationship started before I understood language. I Googled around and could not find the manuscript. And truth unfold… Here is the full distribution of the word “righteous” (and related terms like righteousness) throughout the Bible: So there it is. Your comment makes no sense at all. I had more than enough raw material to work with because the Bible is an exceedingly rich book filled with numinous symbols and a universal myth spanning Creation, the Fall, and the New Creation. On average, the date would be off by six months with each generation so after 20 generations you have an uncertainty of 10 years. If the NT was based on Isaiah and fulfilled prophecies reverse engineered into the text, wouldn’t this make more sense? And if my claims could not be falsified, how could they be justified? I was convinced from the moment I first discovered it. I start by sitting and talking to Jesus Christ. I had simply noticed that the first spoke contained the first books of three primary divisions of Scripture: I then colored and labeled the rest of the traditional divisions as shown in the graphic. Who was Jesus? Pre-Tribulation Rapture Debunked In Less Than 3 Minutes Okay, let me get this straight about the Pre-tribulation rapture theory. ( the list could go on but knowing why each one was given and for what, is really a miracle ). My point is that your idea is not so far-fetched. I really believed that coincidences which “fit the pattern” constituted proof of design. If you and yours would like to HEAR OF THE HEALING miracle, let me know! How could I say I believed something if in fact I did not? The Isaiah-Bible Correlation was one of my primary lines of evidence that God had designed the Bible. The Bible records that a huge number of Hebrew slaves escaped the wrath of Egypt through the parted waters of the Red Sea. Also it’s written in the end times almost the very elect would be deceived, notice corresponding corruption in 5/7 parables concerning the Kingdom of God. A wide variety of patterns can be devised using different, but equally justifiable, presuppositions. So, I have decided for my daily test,  It totally floored me and “confirmed” yet again my absolute conviction that God had designed the patterns I was finding. As for DeVern Fromke, is there anything he says that I could not have learned from two decades of serious Bible study as a believer? "! And that mystery touches all of us…. Reader’s Questions: Is there a God? The most notable example is Psalm 119 which has 8 stanzas for each letter giving a total of 176 (= 8 x 22) verses. There is mystery in life. While we’re at it, throw out all the baubles too: the stained glass window, the medallions, the rings, the tricycle. If you want to challenge something I’ve actually written, please quote what I wrote and show why it is in error. By themselves, those two ideas are empty. By Edwardtbabinski at 5/31/2008 43 comments. I discuss this at length in my previous article Debunking Myself: What A Long Strange Trip It’s Been. what God is saying is alive before me. Your better judgment and common sense is telling you “see a doctor…ya know a real tangible person whom is knowledgable and skilled in medicine.” but your blind faith is telling “no trust in the lord and he will heal you amen!” hahaha OF COURSE HE WILL!! healing plants, Life Extension … I began with the mundane task of explaining how some passages, such as Psalm 119, are acrostic – that is, they follow the pattern of the alphabet. team in separately and each were given 1 hour to explain the Company find on this earth. Did you get the whole text? I did describe how one could MAKE such a scroll. The three verses you found are the three that talk about the “just living by faith.” And you are right, they do not all occur on the same Spoke. How do we know if it was just a random coincidence? How can we know that this is more than a child’s story? The odds of cognitive bias being responsible must be very high. And all of them, can then be distilled down to either two ’causes’ (Newton) stemmed from either goød or bad intentions earlier in the line of time (chronology). And on and on it goes. Everything that’s in the Word is the Way the Truth and the Life and the Light … By the year 1995 my experience with dreams, numerology, synchronicity and Kabbalah had convinced me that the Bible was a “fully coded, manifestly transcendental Linguistic Holograph deliberately designed to the last detail by the everliving Lord God Almighty.” That’s how I described it in my cover letter when I submitted my book The Holographic Structure of Holy Scripture for publication. That before the ‘why,’  with His Father and Spirits approval. I found a good example of this just this morning in an old post I had written on my forum a few years ago (which shows what a rich resource it is for understanding the psychology of belief). There is no correlation of any kind with the pattern of the wheel. Thank you for the very thoughtful comments. I am very happy to know that there is much I don’t know. The differences were designed in accordance with the Hebrew Alphabet. So faith is our response to His ability phil.4:13 1jn.4:4 Who is he that can define normal, since normal is a perceptive quality dependent of each individual. You apparently understand that there is no actual evidence of any “divine design” in the Bible Wheel so you have chosen a subjective “standard” that really is no standard at all. It seems to have made a classic mistake. The purpose of the article above was to review the “Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.” There were lots of “good” things about the Bible Wheel, or at least I thought they were good, but you reject them as “cult like baubles.” Oh well. So anyways, if anyone wants a fun and enlightening exercise to complete on one page, reply, and I’ll give it to you for free. What I see is God used one pattern for the Jews, and then one pattern for Gentiles. I agree there are some wonderful truths to be found in the old book, but to say it is all “true” strikes me as demonstrably false. It’s not a spiritual epiphany. He may have overclaimed, but there is without question certain limited evidence of mathematical design and intention in the Torah. It is a classic example of selection bias. It’s nothing but cognitive bias. if I changed direction, other than through thought. I then inebriated myself (and my readers, I had hoped) with quotes from famous preachers who praised Psalm 119 as a “star in the firmament of the Psalms of the first and greatest magnitude,” an “Alphabet of Divine Love,” a “Paradise of all the Doctrines,” and a “little Bible” overflowing with “inexhaustible fullness.” Having set the stage, I explained how Psalm 119 served as a “foundation” of the Bible Wheel (bold italics in the original): These comments show that the glory of Psalm 119, like that of the Bible itself, surpasses the limits of human language. It was not within the ability of any human or group of humans to design the Bible Wheel (assuming it were true) because that would require knowledge of the Christian canon before it was written to make all the pieces fit. There are no statistically significant patterns so whatever “wonderful resonances” you find are nothing but a reflection of your presuppositions. This verse is quoted in one and only one verse of the Bible, in the Gospel of John on Spoke 21, corresponding to Shin: John 19:36 For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. We are all coping with the magnificent mystery of existence, and all hurting from the pain of separation from God. As you can see, the site is no longer down. I mark them with the name of the letters: Psalm 111:10 (Resh) The fear of the LORD is the beginning (reshit) of wisdom. Michael Drosnin has definitely capitalized on the findings of Eliyah Rips, but the evidence from the book of Esther which contains both structural evidence and prophetic significance should convince anyone. I probably would still be a believer (of sorts) if I didn’t fall into the trap of “proving” my beliefs. You have become a fool. The order for the Old Testament books is that found in the Hebrew Bible, which is the original order. So if all this is “Bull” as you say, why not take it down? Debunking Myself: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, Debunking Dan Gleason, the “Jesus is a Circle” guy, http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/author/dafei-tang/page/3/, Debunking Myself: What A Long Strange Trip It's Been. On the contrary, the books that were collected into the Bible existed on many different scrolls. The result flowed quite naturally and required little effort to complete. The inability to have a Spiritual aspect in one;s life seems to be opposed to all the ancient teachings wherever they may originate, And that is my point. PS: The Lord God is “real and loving” He Is. Is there any real proof that the Biblical account of the Exodus actually happened? This brings us to the final topic: The Ugly. How do you know the rhymes aren’t a coincidence? >Which pattern do you think “exists” and is in need of “explanation” beyond mere coincidence? But there is more! That would be absurdly unwieldy. Given this “catch all” excuse for data that didn’t fit, how could my claims be falsified? Well that’s weird. And if it’s true for just one person, then that’s enough. For decades, a landmark brain study fed speculation about whether we control our own actions. If your god is real he clearly doesn’t care about the fate of his “Children”. My point is that it’s not a huge leap of logic to imagine the Bible as one scroll “sealed from beginning to end with ΑΩ.” It’s certainly not a new idea. My site attracts every variety of numerological pattern finding end-time predicting fool imaginable. When Y: ) : )U TOO start communicating with Them, you’ll never be the same! That’s why I put those verses on the banner of my original site, above the proclamation “The Divine Seal and Capstone of God’s Word.”. Oddly enough, the evidence for the Bible Wheel withstood our skepticism though the Bible itself did not. Muslims will tell you stories how Allah saved them just as much as a Hindu can tell you stories of the supernatural powers of his guru. Answers for Kristina – Was I really a Believer? And when I did that, I realized that the methods used by numerologists are flawed because they are based fundamentally on selection bias and confirmation bias. Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Have you read any of my debunking articles? All of this can be put on one page, and make a ‘hell’ of a lot of sense. is Awesome. Cause/effect. I received a terse reply that said “Thank you Mr. McGought [sic], We appreciate you suggestion for the publication of The Holographic Structure of the Holy Spirit [sic]. back, I AM now His again and working for Him FULL TIME!!! Thank you for one of the greatest books ever written. You say he cannot lie, and yet he said that he was coming “soon” because the time was “at hand” two thousand years ago. So some things, or a lot of things don’t line up on your self “debunked wheel” has nothing at all to do with the veracity of the Bible. I also find it curious that you think “faith” is the “path to truth.” Has that been working for Muslims? On the right, a traditional icon of Christ from the Church of Hagia Sofia. It’s like a tapestry with everything connecting with everything else. Which means much of the material you supposedly debunked could be true. With chapters. ↑ Does Old Testament Prophecy Point to Jesus? Your comment seems to indicate that you have found a way to maintain your delusion while admitting that there is no evidence, all through the wonder-working power of “wonderful resonances.”. And so we have another set of examples of believers finding “proof” of divine design using entirely contrary patterns. You contradicted yourself. Your comment makes no sense. The All-Encompassing Alphabet (Alpha Omega), the Cross, and the Number Seven. I saw it as the “capstone” brought forth by the prophet Zerubabbel which would obliterate any opposition to God’s Word, destroying the “great mountain” of unbelief (Zechariah 4:7). Only so much computing it can do. your own Pins on Pinterest jot and tittle. Get a mirror. The Team consisted of 20 hand Here’s a link if you want to know what I’m talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9Ay4QAtW8. what He has done for me. As it stands, you have presented me with no evidence I have not debunked long ago, even when I was a believer in gematria. So, yes, indeed, throw overboard all that. As always, I had asserted that the entire Bible fit the pattern of the Wheel. Leviticus 11:20-23(NIV): While some would see this as a scientific error, J.P. Holding has an "explanation": What the above explanation so clearly misses is the fact that when the Bible mentions that “All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you” [Group A] this group does not include those wi… And ‘letting go of the outcome’ or the desire to ‘know’ for sure. For example, the name of the 16th letter, ayin, means “eye.” It is used as a KeyWord in its corresponding verse in Psalm 34:15 “The eyes of the LORD are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry.” This verse is quoted in one and only one book of the Bible, 1 Peter on Spoke 16. Yes we are talking about random sets, because the folks who collected the Christian scriptures were not trying to make any correlations with the 22 Hebrew letters. Therefore, the flat-earther interpretation of the Bible is debunked. E.g. Are you suggesting that the two trees represent the Axis Mundi (Axis of the World) about which it turns? His presence drives my every waking moment and has added If I wrote more, as John …rev.8:12,16:8 law of angular motion in contraction of center of gravity will study your questions, Concerning faith, it is written, when the son of man comes, shall he find faith on the earth?so in jn.7:17 yielding our will to comply with His will, increases faith,thus we shall know,trust, rely upon Him who can not lie. Corporation (this was announced officially at the end of 2004). Feed 5000 starving children with a loaf of bread? This should be pretty obvious since you can’t show it to anyone else. The Hebrew Alphabet ends with the sign of the cross in precise analogy with the Gospel Message that declares Christ completed His Work of redemption on His Cross with the words “It is finished” (John 19:30). Another Bible teacher, who runs a blog called Gilbert and Friends, follows the same pattern as Tippie and Martin, and has this to say about its significance (source): Isaiah is “the Book” that is a witness to what Books belong in the Bible and their proper order of occurrences. Remember the cartoon with the angel on one shoulder and the devil on the other? Simulations, Dreams, Reality, God? He said, " What Title do you want? Raise the dead? I would resort to the time honored tradition practiced by most believers when confronted with contrary data – I created a word salad of irrational rationalization. Not true. NOW !!! So how did I respond? That’s the relationship I have I reckon I could turn it into the star of David. Now I AM certain my existence will continue from this Self with Life to a new Self with Life. They have always been grouped into 2 cycles. But within the context of the Wheel, where one becomes accustomed to perceiving what has long been believed, this “coincidence” is unveiled as yet another glorious witness to the majesty of God’s infinite wisdom. Shalawam. What’s it all about? Jumping ahead : Of course there were plenty of parties and chances How long do we get to run, before we’re cancelled? I present the evidence in my article called the “Solution to the Synoptic Problem” which demonstrates that God designed the specific variations between the synoptic Gospels on the pattern of the Hebrew Alphabet. Or better, to know that there’s very little that I do know. I had to wait 6 hours to be seen and I was the How? Sorry I really did not mean to deceive you or waste your time. If any debate is stuck to in good faith, the truth is what will prevail, in the end. But there is no reason to think that either the Protestant or the Catholic Bible Wheels were deliberately designed. Written by different authors, in different languages, in different cultures at different times, it is incredible that this relationship exists between the book of Isaiah, and the whole of the Bible. Each equals one letter that needs to be filled in. Case in point: the frequency of the word “righteousness” is greatly maximized in Matthew relative to the other Gospels: Things get very interesting when we compare parallel passages between Matthew and Luke: Matt 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Never in the history of the world has anyone beheld such a profoundly compact and reiterative compound symbol in the structure of any book, let alone a book that proclaims itself Divine, that defines and exemplifies the symbols in its own text, that was composed in three languages over a period of fifteen hundred years by multiple individuals from all walks of life, that transformed the world with its message, and that kept its secret hidden for centuries after its completion only to be revealed when it was simply “rolled up like a scroll” on the alphabetic pattern established within its own pages! Surely if Ezekiel could see … It might even be true, who knows. There is no need to go through the details of the contradictory correlations since there is no objective standard by which to decide between them. For some examples … Apparently, you are suggesting that the folks who collected the 66 books did so to deliberately make a Bible Wheel even though there is no meaning to it because all the connections I found were just “coincidences”? Aha! This does not contradict the principle; it only changes the numbers. At that point in my existence I realized the first limitation Nothing you have written recently has changed that for me. Hebrews 10:38 “The just shall live by faith”. Although Bible historians suggest Ezekiel was speaking symbolically about the terrifying enemies facing Israel, could this be another example of an alien visitation and proof that pre-historic aircraft existed?” There’s no end to the lunacy of folks who follow the path you advocate. But this is not true. My best evidence has been debunked. My sons are PhDs with multiple undergraduate degrees, also ALL paid for. Some consider this incontrovertible proof of ancient aliens. He said, " I have been authorized by my Boss and the Directorship to offer you God’s Word has spoken this And I Believe have Faith with Prayer and await my future home. This exemplifies how there are many patterns in the Bible. Simple. NASA confirms galaxies revolve around black holes,(open ended metallic spinning drums) guess matter to energy converters or reducing to smaller than 10 to the -23 cm. Yes, just like there is a correlation with a random set of 66 dog turds. The Isaiah-Bible Coincidence Debunked. Oddly enough, the evidence for the Bible Wheel withstood our skepticism though the Bible itself did not. In the former passage, "The heart of a fool is as a cart-wheel," the changeableness of a light disposition is satirized. This Spirit of Being had realized It’s presence for the first time. But it didn’t fit the pattern I was looking for, so I ignored it. But this is not true. However my pattern isn’t in scripture, it’s in crime statistics. The Bible even refers to his other worldly origins. Why are certain individuals attracted to somethings. There are so many prophecies that have come to pass. There is a curious consistency to your comments. Yes, it is obvious that they tried to arrange the books in an elegant way. There is no reason to believe they have any significance at all. 37 And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced. Luke 12:31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you. unless you receive the treatment you’re doomed by your own ignorance. Beliefs come first, explanations for beliefs follow. 2.Who do you think Jesus is / was? And that brings us to the next topic: The Bad. The whole bible is witness to redemption and the coming of the Messiah. The second citation is from Zechariah 12:10 which is on Spoke 16. I hope to make biblical archaeology more accessible to the average person, and in particular, the younger generations. My reasons are the same now as they would have been then, except sharpened with added insight into the psychology of belief. If I took the information out the wheel and posted it on a website it would still be in my opinion very valuable material, so why you would think it has errors in it is a mystery to me. Faith. The large axle would have the appearance of a wheel within a wheel. Where is the “righteousness” in Luke? This brings us to the final topic: The Ugly.”. If the Bible Wheel pattern required that I recombine books that were originally united, I have little doubt I would have argued for that point of view. one wears out. We form our beliefs for a variety of subjective, personal, emotional, and psychological reasons in the context of environments created by family, friends, colleagues, culture, and society at large; after forming our beliefs we then defend, justify, and rationalize them with a host of intellectual reasons, cogent arguments, and rational explanations. 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